Do the Zags need a loss before the NCAA Tournament?

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A look in the mirror moment; a reality check moment; an opportunity for re-focusing. Kentucky suffered a loss in the SEC Tourney to Vandy last year. UConn is a bad example as they lost quite a few games in the regular season and then caught fire in 2011. However, they did lose their last 2 regular season games. Duke lost to Maryland in their 2nd to last regular season game in 2010. North Carolina lost to Florida State in the ACC tourney in 2009. Thoughts?

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Zags will not play anyone near the level of competition that those other teams did and will thus lose a ton of seeding "weight" if they lose. As we have seen in the past, seeding can mean everything. I DO see your point, I think it is possible that our guys could take it to another level if they were furious and felt slighted. I do not think that that advantage would be worth what they would lose in seeding. One other thing going for them is that I think a lot of teams are probably intimidated by them. They have heard a ton about them but haven't seen us b/c we play on another continent (seemingly) from the other teams. If we carry this mystique of being some big bad unbeatable unknown, I think it helps.

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The Butler loss gave them all the lessons they'd need from a "tough loss". At least that is my opinion.

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No

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Any "reality check" benefit is offset by the implications for seeding given the quality of opponents left on our schedule IMO. __________________ I almost nunchucked you right there...you don't even realize...

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Quote: The Butler loss gave them all the lessons they'd need from a "tough loss". At least that is my opinion. And I don't know I'd they even "needed" that loss. San Diego was a wake up IMO. And that's how I like my wake up calls. With a W

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A scare might be better, like an OT game. It would expose some weaknesses but you wouldn't be hurt in rankings.

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The zags can't afford another loss before the tournament. If the zags lose another game, they might not get at least a 2 seed.

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To me, that seems a little like saying "I need to get caught cheating to strengthen my marriage". __________________ Birddog Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe: All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe.

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Quote: The Butler loss gave them all the lessons they'd need from a "tough loss". At least that is my opinion. +1. __________________ Dream no small dreams for they have no power to move the hearts of men. -Goethe GBell_5 Gary Bell Jr. We gotta throw the first punch... The most punches... And the hardest punches... #allbusiness

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Quote: A look in the mirror moment; a reality check moment; an opportunity for re-focusing. Kentucky suffered a loss in the SEC Tourney to Vandy last year. UConn is a bad example as they lost quite a few games in the regular season and then caught fire in 2011. However, they did lose their last 2 regular season games. Duke lost to Maryland in their 2nd to last regular season game in 2010. North Carolina lost to Florida State in the ACC tourney in 2009. Thoughts? The problem with this theory, is those losses (other than maybe UCONN) didn't really impact their seeding. A loss for GU hurts their seeding thus makes the road in the tournament a lot more difficult. Gotta win out if we want to make some real noise.

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Quote: wins good. Losses bad. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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USF humbled them enough.

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Real simple answer. ......and that would be NO!

Professional Zag Fan ? Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 688

No, b/c unlike a Duke, a loss costs us an entire seed line.

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...but all the other top ranked teams have had at least one!!! SARCASM!!!

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Quote: To me, that seems a little like saying "I need to get caught cheating to strengthen my marriage". Hey, good idea! I'm gonna try that with my wife and see how that flies. LOL __________________ 'No matter where you go, there you are.' - Buckaroo Banzai ________________________________ Foo Time

Professional Zag Fan ? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Zag Country Posts: 633

So far they've done a good job of treating some of their wins like losses

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My hope, and prognostication, is opposite. GU wins out, and these other teams keep losing. Up goes GU. This will cause the East Coast/BCS talking heads to go apesh*t... providing this team with 4 walls full of motivating material just in time for a tournament full of opportunities. __________________ TM

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That's always an interesting question. I don't think this Gonzaga team needs a loss before the tournament...because they have had a couple brushes with defeat (San Diego and San Francisco). If they were beating everybody by 20 and were on a 20 game win streak then maybe you think "maybe they need a loss to show themselves they aren't invincible".

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