Monday, February 18, 2013

Do the Zags need a loss before the NCAA Tournament?


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A look in the mirror moment; a reality check moment; an opportunity for re-focusing.

Kentucky suffered a loss in the SEC Tourney to Vandy last year.
UConn is a bad example as they lost quite a few games in the regular season and then caught fire in 2011. However, they did lose their last 2 regular season games.
Duke lost to Maryland in their 2nd to last regular season game in 2010.
North Carolina lost to Florida State in the ACC tourney in 2009.

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Nope.

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Zags will not play anyone near the level of competition that those other teams did and will thus lose a ton of seeding "weight" if they lose. As we have seen in the past, seeding can mean everything.

I DO see your point, I think it is possible that our guys could take it to another level if they were furious and felt slighted. I do not think that that advantage would be worth what they would lose in seeding.

One other thing going for them is that I think a lot of teams are probably intimidated by them. They have heard a ton about them but haven't seen us b/c we play on another continent (seemingly) from the other teams. If we carry this mystique of being some big bad unbeatable unknown, I think it helps.

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The Butler loss gave them all the lessons they'd need from a "tough loss". At least that is my opinion.

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Any "reality check" benefit is offset by the implications for seeding given the quality of opponents left on our schedule IMO.

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The Butler loss gave them all the lessons they'd need from a "tough loss". At least that is my opinion.

And I don't know I'd they even "needed" that loss. San Diego was a wake up IMO. And that's how I like my wake up calls. With a W

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A scare might be better, like an OT game. It would expose some weaknesses but you wouldn't be hurt in rankings.

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The zags can't afford another loss before the tournament. If the zags lose another game, they might not get at least a 2 seed.

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To me, that seems a little like saying "I need to get caught cheating to strengthen my marriage".

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Wins good. Losses bad.

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A look in the mirror moment; a reality check moment; an opportunity for re-focusing.

Kentucky suffered a loss in the SEC Tourney to Vandy last year.
UConn is a bad example as they lost quite a few games in the regular season and then caught fire in 2011. However, they did lose their last 2 regular season games.
Duke lost to Maryland in their 2nd to last regular season game in 2010.
North Carolina lost to Florida State in the ACC tourney in 2009.

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The problem with this theory, is those losses (other than maybe UCONN) didn't really impact their seeding.

A loss for GU hurts their seeding thus makes the road in the tournament a lot more difficult. Gotta win out if we want to make some real noise.

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USF humbled them enough.

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Real simple answer. ......and that would be NO!

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No, b/c unlike a Duke, a loss costs us an entire seed line.

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...but all the other top ranked teams have had at least one!!!

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To me, that seems a little like saying "I need to get caught cheating to strengthen my marriage".

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So far they've done a good job of treating some of their wins like losses

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My hope, and prognostication, is opposite. GU wins out, and these other teams keep losing. Up goes GU. This will cause the East Coast/BCS talking heads to go apesh*t... providing this team with 4 walls full of motivating material just in time for a tournament full of opportunities.

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That's always an interesting question. I don't think this Gonzaga team needs a loss before the tournament...because they have had a couple brushes with defeat (San Diego and San Francisco). If they were beating everybody by 20 and were on a 20 game win streak then maybe you think "maybe they need a loss to show themselves they aren't invincible".

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